just out of harvard law school. whatever. [laughter] >> at my rate. >> he lost me at harvard. >> am i right? >> yeah. you didn't get in either? [laughter] >> as i was saying, you know, he could certainly appreciate the similar upbringing in that respect. but this is -- i harkin back to the same point. i think that local politics urban politics at the city to me are the center of democracy. truly a great amount of opportunity available there and, you know, i would love to hear other people's comments on that. that's the importance of governance. >> thank you. >> moderator: i guess i'll pose one question to you and i can tell we have people ready to ask questions already. but i was, you know, one of the things that you often hear me less -- social media. we heard earlier today one of the experts at the social media sites are the village squares for civil discourse. i was curious to hear from both of you how yourself using social media and technology, you know, campaigning not also to relate in contact with constituents? >> yeah